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Re: US to relinquish control of Internet


From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 18:40:25 -0400

Bob Evans wrote:
(As if the US has "control" anyway....)

It's all over the "popular press", strange I haven't seen it here.

        <http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/200889-us-to-relinquish-internet-control>
        <http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions>
        <http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-2-14mar14-en.htm>
        <http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14mar14-en.htm>
        <http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-14mar14-en.htm>

Etc., etc.

It's nice of the DoC to "relinquish" control, but I really don't see it
changing much other than quieting down some hype from countries that were
saying they were pissed at the US for "controlling" the Internet. And I
couldn't really see those countries doing anything about it unless the US
did something actually bad, which they wouldn't do IMHO.

Was I being a pollyanna?
Yep, way to optimistic. The world always wants the success of capitalism
as long as they don't have to create the climate for it, they just want it
handed to them. Once they have it they turn it back toward socialism and
proceed to F%^$ it up. Gee, sound like the direction our system's been
trying to go in for the last 6 years.


Not for nothing, but what does capitalism have to do with this? The Internet was a creation of a combination of Government investment (not just US mind you, the ARPANET was not the only early network that ended up merging into the early Internet, there were European networks as well). Today's Internet is a cooperative endeavor that is not "owned" by anyone (the pieces, of course, are); and the governance is mostly a cooperative endeavor (yes ICANN is under contract to the US Government, but primarily operates on its own). Capitalism, if anything, is a negative factor in the mix - as evidenced by the practices of some of the backbone owners and particularly the large cable and telephone companies who own a lot of the network edge (at least in the US, where access costs are higher, and bandwidths are lower, than some far more socialist countries).

Now one can argue about under- and over- regulation; and who is to do the regulating (treating US carriers under common carriage regimes would, IMHO, would have positive results. Handing ICANN over to the ITU would create a bureacratic nightmare, for example). But that's a separate issue entirely - and coincidentally, the issue on the table.

As to being a pollyanna: I agree, way to optimistic. But not for reasons having to do with communism vs. socialism - but for reasons of a proven system that works vs. handing control over to bureaucrats who might F&^k it up. Personally, I think the caveats that NTIA has attached to "relinquishing control" sound like somebody has got it right - handing ICANN over to, say ISOC might work very well (nobody complains about ISOC control of the IETF). The question is, whether political pressures will lead to a horribly bad decision.

Miles Fidelman



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