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Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
From: Matthew Kaufman <matthew () matthew at>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 14:43:18 -0700
My Apple TV appears to use IPv6, but since there's no UI for it (last I checked) I had to disable SLAAC on that subnet to keep it from trying to use my slow connection. So in my book, "some" v6 support is actually worse than "none" Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
However, I also don't think consumer education is the answer: http://www.wleecoyote.com/blog/consumeraction.htm Summary: Until it is perfectly clear why a consumer needs IPv6, and what they need to do about it, consumer education will only cause fear and frustration, which will not be helpful. This is a technology problem, not a feature problem, and consumers shouldn't have to select which Internet to be on. LeeShort of consumer education, how do you expect to resolve the issue where $CONSUMER walks into $BIG_BOX_CE_STORE and says "I need a router, what's the cheapest one you have?" Whereupon $TEENAGER_MAKING_MINIMUM_WAGE who likely doesn't know DOCSIS 2 from DOCSIS 3, has no idea what IP actually is, and thinks that Data is an android from Star Trek says "Here, this Linksys thing is only $30." Unless/until we either get the stores to pull the IPv4-only stuff off their shelves or educate consumers, the continued deployment of additional incapable equipment will be a continuing problem. As bad as the situation is for cablemodems and residential gateways, at least there, an educated consumer can make a good choice. Now, consider DVRs, BluRay players, Receiver/Amplifiers, Televisions, etc. where there are, currently, no IPv6 capable choices available to the best of my knowledge. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion, (continued)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Barry Shein (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Christopher Morrow (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Barry Shein (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Barry Shein (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion joel jaeggli (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Matthew Kaufman (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Jay Ashworth (Jun 20)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion John Levine (Jun 20)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion George, Wes (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Karl Auer (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Lee Howard (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Mark Tinka (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Lee Howard (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Brian Hartsfield (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Lee Howard (Jun 19)