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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:35:22 -0400
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, William Herrin wrote:The only exception I see to this would be if localities were constrained to providing point to point and point to multipoint communications infrastructure within the locality on a reasonable and non-discriminatory basis. The competition that would foster on the services side might outweigh the damage on the infrastructure side. Like public roads facilitate efficient transportation and freight despite the cost and potholes, though that's an imperfect simile.While I might not agree with the parts of your email you cut out, I would definitely like to chime in on this part. Muni fiber should be exactly that, muni *fiber*. Point to point fiber optic single mode fiber cabling, aggregating thousands of households per location, preferrably tens of thousands.
Howdy, I hold out hope it could also be done with a local lit multipoint service. Here's your RFC 6598 address, here's the RFC 6598 addresses of these 20 service providers, pay whichever one you want for general purpose Internet connectivity, video over IP or whatever the heck it is they sell and they'll provide the VPN client you need. But either way, constrain the locality to providing local point to point and point to multipoint connectivity. Don't allow it to provide general services over the link unless you intend to keep all commercial service providers out.
It's hard to go wrong in this area, it either works or it doesn't, and in these aggregation nodes people can compete with several different technologies, they can use PON, they can use active ethernet, they can provide corporate 10GE connections if they need to, they can run hybrid/fiber coax, they can run point-to-point 1GE for residential. Anything is possible and the infrastructure is likely to be as viable in 30 years as it is day 1 after installation.
You're not wrong. And a locality providing dark fiber as at least one of the buyable services is doing things right. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
Current thread:
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Matthew Kaufman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Harlan Stenn (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Hugo Slabbert (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Andrew Gallo (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics goemon (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Matthew Kaufman (Jul 21)