Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

[joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>]

On 12/11/14 1:14 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 23:11 , joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:
> >
> > On 12/10/14 7:45 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
> > > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Yucong Sun wrote:
> > >
> > > > It is not the same thing though. In my case, they just say we want
> > > > you to
> > > > buy our IP, if you don't and want use you own Arin allocated IP blocks
> > > > through bgp, then we got to charge you anyway!
> > > Are they charging per /24 (assuming IPv4 here...), or per prefix?
> > >
> > > If they are charging per /24, that seems like a great way to encourage
> > > customers to find another provider.
> > >
> > > If they are charging per prefix, that seems like an interesting way to
> > > encourage customers to make sure they aggregate their BGP
> > > advertisements as much as possible.
> > ISPs in my experience have a fee schedule supported by a model which
> > allows them to recover their expenses plus a nominal profit. If the
> > model doesn't work, in the long run that is a problem that solves
> > itself. At the right scale I have productive leverage against the profit
> > side of that number and also what line items the expenses are lodged
> > against. below that I'm a retail customer and I pick from the best
> > options available to me.
> > > jms
> To me this sounds like they are trying to encourage their customers to accept IP addresses from them in order to 
> bolster their utilization for purposes of hoarding addresses. I would expect that they will later reverse these 
> "incentives" to attempt to reclaim the space in order to avoid having to go to the transfer market for more space.
>
> I would consider such behavior highly unethical at best, but my sense of ethics may not be shared by all. I'm sure 
> some of the Randians on this list will tell me that this is some proper and good way for the economy to work. Free 
> market, blah blah.

I think it's a really good idea to not engage in business with people
whose behavior strikes you as bad.
> Owen

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