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Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house


From: Charles Mills <w3yni1 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:41:42 -0500

In the US at least you have to authenticate with your Comcast credentials
and not like a traditional open wifi where you can just make up an email
and accept the terms of service.  I also understand that it is a different
IP than the subscriber.  Based on this the subscriber should be protected
from anyone doing anything illegal and causing the SWAT team to pay a
visit.  I haven't upgraded my gear though.

Now..they are doing this on your electric bill and taking up space (albeit
a small amount of it) in your home.

Chuck



On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> wrote:

Why am I not surprised?

Whose fault would it be if your comcast installed public wifi would be
abused to download illegal material or launch a botnet, to name some random
fun one could have on your behalf. :-/

(apologies if this was posted already, couldn't find an email about it on
the list)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/10/disgruntled_
customers_lob_sueball_at_comcast_over_public_wifi/

"A mother and daughter are suing Comcast claiming the cable giant's router
in their home was offering public Wi-Fi without their permission.

Comcast-supplied routers broadcast an encrypted, private wireless network
for people at home, plus a non-encrypted network called XfinityWiFi that
can be used by nearby subscribers. So if you're passing by a fellow user's
home, you can lock onto their public Wi-Fi, log in using your Comcast
username and password, and use that home's bandwidth.

However, Toyer Grear, 39, and daughter Joycelyn Harris – who live together
in Alameda County, California – say they never gave Comcast permission to
run a public network from their home cable connection.

In a lawsuit [PDF] filed in the northern district of the golden state, the
pair accuse the ISP of breaking the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and two
other laws.

Grear – a paralegal – and her daughter claim the Xfinity hotspot is an
unauthorized intrusion into their private home, places a "vast" burden on
electricity bills, opens them up to attacks by hackers, and "degrades"
their bandwidth.

"Comcast does not, however, obtain the customer's authorization prior to
engaging in this use of the customer's equipment and internet service for
public, non-household use," the suit claims.

"Indeed, without obtaining its customers' authorization for this
additional use of their equipment and resources, over which the customer
has no control, Comcast has externalized the costs of its national Wi-Fi
network onto its customers."

The plaintiffs are seeking monetary damages for themselves and on behalf
of all Comcast customers nation-wide in their class-action case – the
service was rolled out to 20 million customers this year."

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