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Re: DMARC -> CERT?


From: Jim Popovitch <jimpop () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 17:06:33 -0400

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Christopher Morrow
<morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

if you're going to do something that has the potential to affect (say,
for example) email to a wide set of people, most of which are NOT your
direct users, how do you go about making that public?

'the internet' isn't really a good answer for 'how do you notify'.
Doug's note that: "email mailops" is good... but I'm not sure how many
people that run lists listen to mailops? (I don't ... i don't run any
big list, but...)

I also wonder about update cycles for software in this realm? and for
very larger list operators there's probably some customization and
such to hurdle over on the upgrade path, eh? so how much leadtime is
enough? how much is too much? 1yr seems like a long time - people will
forget, 1wk doesn't seem like enough to avoid firedrills and
un-intended bugs.

First, you don't start by telling mailinglist admins to NOT worry
about dmarc as they are a special case that will be
handled/whitelisted/etc.   The dmarc discussion archives (of which
Yahoo is a primary sponsor, and a Yahoo employee is one of the spec
authors) are full of discussions that clearly show no cause or care
about mailinglists.  I was told, several times, that mailinglists
would be ok, they would be whitelisted and that there was no need for
all my concern (well over 6 months ago).

-Jim P.


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