Re: DMARC -> CERT?

[Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo () heliacal net>]

By their statement it's obvious that yahoo doesn't care about what they broke.  It's unfortunate that email has become 
so centralized that one entity can cause so much 'trouble'.  Maybe it's a good opportunity to encourage the affected 
mailing list subscribers to use their own domains for email, and host it themselves if possible.

-Laszlo


On Apr 14, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:

> Isn't it the other way around?  They don't want their users to be able to send to mailing lists.  They receive 
> traffic from the lists just fine.  Their policy considers only effects mail originating from their users.  Yahoo 
> subscribers can receive messages form nanog just fine, but they can't send to it.
>
> Miles
>
> Laszlo Hanyecz wrote:
> > I don't see what the big deal is here.  They don't want your messages and they made that clear.  Their policy 
> > considers these messages spam.  If you really want to get your mailing list messages through, then you need to evade 
> > their filters just like every other spammer has to.
> >
> > -Laszlo
> >
> >
> > On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:
> >
> > > Well... how about this, from Yahoo's own posting:
> > > We know there are about 30,000 affected email sending services, but we also know that the change needed to support 
> > > our new DMARC policy is important and not terribly  difficult to implement.
> > >
> > > To me - this sure looks, smells, and quacks like a denial-of-service attack against a system I operate, and the 
> > > subscriber to the lists that I support -- somewhat akin to exploding a bomb in a public square, and then taking 
> > > credit for it.
> > >
> > > Miles Fidelman
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> > > In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra
>
>
> -- 
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra