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Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients?
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 13:43:00 -0500
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:31:54PM -0500, Jon Lewis wrote:
If you know you have pro spammers on your network, the question isn't how much to obfuscate spam complaints you receive...it's why haven't you terminated the customer(s)?
Another question is "why are you relying on third parties to tell you that abuse is outbound from your operation? Why don't you already know?" Alright, two questions. But my point is that all competent operations have their own set of diverse spamtraps AND they not only passively monitor them, but they actively seed them in order to detect spammers. This not only gives them a chance to pro-actively terminate spammers before they have the opportunity to abuse third parties, but it also enables independent, controlled corroboration of reports received -- whether obfuscated or not. (Anything received at those spamtraps other than an attempt to confirm a subscription via a proper COI process is clearly spam or a typo. The incidence rate of the latter can be decreased at will with minimal effort.) ---rsk
Current thread:
- Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Landon (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? William Herrin (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? William Herrin (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Doug Clements (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Jimmy Hess (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Jon Lewis (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Rich Kulawiec (Nov 07)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Blake Dunlap (Nov 07)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Nonaht Leyte (Nov 07)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Landon (Nov 12)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Rich Kulawiec (Nov 07)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? William Herrin (Nov 07)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? William Herrin (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? William Herrin (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Nonaht Leyte (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? Jimmy Hess (Nov 06)
- Re: Do you obfuscate email headers when reporting spam issues to clients? William Herrin (Nov 06)