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RE: Geoip lookup


From: "Frank Bulk \(iname.com\)" <frnkblk () iname com>
Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 21:05:04 -0500

Here's a few more resources:
http://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/
http://www.nirsoft.net/countryip/


Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: shawn wilson [mailto:ag4ve.us () gmail com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:27 PM
To: info () cymru com
Cc: North American Network Operators Group
Subject: Re: Geoip lookup

If anyone is interrested, here's a little Perl CLI util to lookup what
countries registered networks within a block. There's no documentation
yet, it's a .pl where it should probably be a command with a makefile
installer, and Net::CIDR overlaps Net::IP. At any rate, hopefully it
is useful to someone.

https://github.com/ag4ve/geocidr

PS - do note the -mask option (where you can define say, a 20 or 21 or
22) so that you're not sitting there banging on their DNS looking up
tons of /32s for blocks CYMRU doesn't have any information on.

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 6:44 AM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
On May 24, 2013, at 10:47 AM, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:

I replied privately to Owen, but might as well share:

On May 23, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
Really? Which ones? I thought they were only issued to organizations that had operations in regions.
That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN regions, it is entirely possible for you 
to obtain addresses from RIPE or ARIN and use them in both locations, or, obtain addresses from both RIPE and ARIN 
and use them in their respective regions, or mix and match in just about any imaginable way. Thus, IP addresses 
don't reside in regions, either. They are merely issued somewhat regionally.

A direct quote from a recent interaction with ARIN (this was requested by ARIN staff as part of the back and forth 
for requesting address space):

"Please reply and verify that you will be using the requested number resources within the ARIN region and announcing 
all routing prefixes of the requested space from within the ARIN region. In accordance with section 2.2 of the NRPM, 
ARIN issues number resources only for use within its region. ARIN is therefore only able to provide for your 
in-region numbering needs."

I believe AfriNIC and LACNIC have similar limitations on use but am too lazy to look it up (and I don't really care 
all that much: just thought it was amusing).

Indeed.  This was covered in more detail in the Policy Experience Report
given at the ARIN 31, in which it was noted that we are seeing an increase
in requests for IPv4 address space from parties who have infrastructure in
the region, but for customers entirely from outside the region.  This has
resulted in a significant change in the issuance rate and therefore any
estimates for regional free pool depletion.  ARIN has sought guidance from
the community regarding what constitutes appropriate in-region use, should
this be based on infrastructure or served customers, and whether incidental
use outside the region is appropriate.  (This topic was also on this list on
26 April 2012 - see attached email from that thread)   Policy proposals in
this area to bring further clarity in address management are encouraged.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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Begin forwarded message:

From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Subject: Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
Date: April 26, 2013 10:43:51 AM EDT
To: "nanog () nanog org Group" <nanog () nanog org>

On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com> wrote:

One interesting twist in all of this is that several of these new
"slow-start" players in the ARIN region seem to be servicing customers
outside of the region with equipment and services hosted here inside
the ARIN region (see slide 12 on the ARIN 31 "Policy Implementation
and Experience Report"
https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_31/PDF/monday/nobile_policy.pdf).

NANOG Folks -

Please read this slide deck, section noted by Chris.  It explains the
"situation"...  (I would not call the sudden acceleration in IP address
issuance a problem, per se, as that is an judgement for the community
either way.)

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN









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