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Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:09:29 -0400
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Michael McConnell <michael () winkstreaming com> wrote:
As the IPv4 space get smaller and smaller, does anyone think we'll see a time when /25's will be accepted for global BGP prefix announcement. The current smallest size is a /24 and generally ok for most people, but the crunch gets tighter, routers continue to have more and more ram will it always be /24 the smallest size?
No. 1. Too many ASes whose operators are a part of too many cultures and speak too many languages apply a blind filter at /24. Too hard to change. 2. TCAM != RAM However.... It is possible for a tunnel provider to: 1. Draw a covering route in to a well chosen set of data centers, 2. Set up a nice redundant set of tunnels from each data center to each of its customers' Internet links, 3. Accept smaller-than-/24 routes at a higher priority than the tunnels from its peers where those routes originate from the customers to whom it assigned those addresses 4. Help the customers negotiate with the specific handful of ISPs that operate the paths between them so that they'll accept the sourced packets natively and propagate the smaller-than-/24 route within their system. It hasn't been done with any regularity, but it's technically feasible, can be implemented within a few percent of optimal routing and resilience and requires cooperation from few enough parties (all of them directly paid) that it could happen if the economics were right. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka <Grzegorz () janoszka pl> wrote:
As the fragmentation will progress and we will be closing to the magic limit of 500.000, people will filter out /24 and then /23 and so on. Back to static (default) routing!
Don't bet heavy on that either. Many if not most of the Internet's critical resources (think: DNS roots) sit within /24 announcements. Incautious filtering shoots oneself in the foot. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?, (continued)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Grzegorz Janoszka (Jun 22)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Owen DeLong (Jun 22)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Arturo Servin (Jun 25)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? William Herrin (Jun 22)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? John Levine (Jun 21)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Masataka Ohta (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Grzegorz Janoszka (Jun 21)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? joel jaeggli (Jun 21)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Owen DeLong (Jun 21)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? William Herrin (Jun 21)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Jimmy Hess (Jun 21)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? ポール・ロラン (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? jim deleskie (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Michael McConnell (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Jimmy Hess (Jun 25)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 25)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Jérôme Nicolle (Jun 24)
- Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table? Daniel Suchy (Jun 22)