Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

[Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com>]

I don't think the conversation is based around the method by which information is intercepted. I hope the conversation 
is aligned with its reasoning for disclosure - the American people stopping a government who is known for abusing it's 
power. Obviously this does not mean physically stopping them, but I imagine most people know what motivates their state 
and national political officials. I still wonder why Mr. Snowden hasn't dropped more damaging information, it would 
seem his sworn enemy has made their feelings somewhat clear.


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-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: 07/15/2013 7:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu>
Cc: nanog list <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500, Aaron Wendel said:
>
> > We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time
> > under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary.
>
> Ask the ex-CEO of Qwest how "voluntary" that sort of stuff is.

it REALLY depends on what 'prisim' is... seen in one light, the
program is 'just' isp/asp people who agree to permit FISA requests to
be satisfied via: "scp files from fisa.isp.net with key fingerprint
0xasdasdasd"

of course, the other way to read it (as the news would like us to
believe) is as: "plug nsa ethernet into eth1 of all servers and
routers, kthxbi!"

more details would certainly make this whole conversation less alamist
and more rational.
-chris