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RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages


From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:06:56 -0600

Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on
any device capable of doing it :)

Those that care did that many moons ago.  The rest don't care.

Of course, if you do not have control of the endpoints doing the encryption (ie, the untrustworthy sucker is in the 
middle somewhere) then it does not matter.

Those who care maintain their own endpoints.  Those that do not care use gmail, office365, yahoo, and their carriers 
e-mail outsourced to one of the previously listed.

Given that this (spying and massive interception) has been common knowledge since the inception of the Internet, and 
that it has particularly been known that the United States became particularly despotic and corrupt, in the last decade 
and a bit when it started hoovering up everything they could get their suckers on (by creating massive cable cuts all 
of the US so they could install their taps), those that are still sending traffic through the United States or using 
hosting services in the United States, without very strong encryption simple do not care.

Folks who use Office 365 simply do not care in the least about privacy, confidentiality or security.  If they did they 
would not be using Office 365.  Or gmail.  Or Yahoo.  Or whatever they are using.

Since these people do not care, and they continue to use these services, and this has been a known circumstance for 
decades, what makes you think that "many people" will suddenly start to be concerned and migrate to more 
private/secure/confidential systems that have been available all along but that they deliberately chose not to use?






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