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Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth


From: Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:13:38 -0600

Sorry Owen, but I live in Illinois. Government corruption is a way of life
here.




On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:


On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Jason Baugher <jason () thebaughers com> wrote:

There is much talk of how many fibers can fit in a duct, can be brought
into a colo space, etc... I haven't seen much mention of how much space
the
termination in the colo would take, such as splice trays, bulkheads,
etc...
Someone earlier mentioned being able to have millions of fibers coming
through a vault, which is true assuming they are just passing through the
vault. When you need to break into one of those 864-fiber cables, the
room
for splice cases suddenly becomes a problem.

The other thing I find interesting about this entire thread is the
assumption by most that a government entity would do a good job as a
layer-1 or -2 provider and would be more efficient than a private
company.
Governments, including municipalities, are notorious for corruption,
fraud,
waste - you name it. Even when government bids out projects to the
private
sector these problems are seen.

I now this is a popular refrain, but in reality, it's not all that
accurate.

I have no problem with allowing L1/L2 to be done by private enterprise, so
long as said private enterprises are required to abide by the following
rules:

1.      They are not allowed to sell L3+ services.
2.      They are not allowed to own any portion of any L3+ service
provider.
3.      They must sell their L1/L2 services to any L3+ service provider on
        equal terms.

Owen




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