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Re: De-funding the ITU


From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 15:54:27 +0000

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:49:59PM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:

On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:04 PM, "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred () cisco com> wrote:
ITU-D and ITU-R do a lot of good work.

Care to try to cite an example?  R we can't pull out of because NRO needs its slots.  I'm not sure that constitutes 
"good work."  It's minor ledger-keeping, and that's why it's excluded from the petition.

        beside the NRO (the real one), DoD and the FCC and NTIA are all invested in a working ITU-R - there is 
        something to be said for products that work outside the US borders as well as within.


Shutting down the ITU would be in effect discarding the baby with the bathwater.

You're being awfully naive, Fred.  It's a 147-year-old, $180M/year baby with a serious corruption problem, that wants 
to shut the Internet down so that it can go back to doing things the way it was before we all showed up.  I expect 
you think you're being sophisticated and taking a nuanced view or some such, but you aren't.  Note that the _entire_ 
congress disagrees with you.  Not a single vote in favor of the ITU in S. Con. Res. 50 or H. Con. Res. 127.  And if 
you think that any of the Internet agrees with you, you should take a look at Reddit sometime.

        it is true that among the public, congress has a lower approval rating than cockroaches (at least according
        to NPR).  I understand a little of your vitriol, but since it is possible to fund -by sector-, there is
        no good reason to tar the entire Union with the same brush.

                                -Bill

/bill


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