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Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list


From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:51:04 -0500


On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:18 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

[P1]: It should be possible to transfer data using tftp, ftp and scp (ftp
client on the OOB device, scp being used to transfer data *to* the device
(OOB being scp server).

For security and performance reasons, FTP has no place in a modern
network. If you're still using it anywhere, you're borrowing grief.
Replace with an http/https client.

TFTP has such a strong legacy of use on routers that its presence
remains just barely tolerable. For now.

We have encountered cases where a vendor TFTP implementation + latency from the ROMMON can take a few hours to load 
images.  I'm for ditching TFTP and replacing it with HTTP.  This forces them to put in a TCP stack, and hopefully 
something that can window-scale and deal with the latency vs 'wait for block', ok, req next block..

The testers involved in their labs are never loading an image from 1600km away so don't get to enjoy this 'fun'.

- Jared

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