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Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 10:12:46 -0500
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Masataka Ohta < mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:
Eric Wieling wrote:I don't think it is that much more expensive to allow other ISPs an ATM PVC into their network.Wrong, which is why ATM has disappeared.ATM may not be the best technology to do this,It is not.
Actually, at the level that Eric's discussing there isn't any real drawback to using ATM. There's no particular upside either, but it certainly works and depending on the gear you're getting your L2TP feed on it may be the best choice.
but the basic concept is not bad.It is not enough, even if you use inexpensive Ethernet. See the subject.
Why?
What *I* want as an ISP is to connect to customers,You may. However, the customers care cost for you to do so, a lot. L1 unbundling allows the customers to choose an ISP with best (w.r.t. cost, performance, etc.) L2 and L3 technology, whereas L2 unbundling allows ILECs choose stupid L2 technologies such as ATM or PON, which is locally best for their short term revenue, which, in the long run, delays global deployment of broadband environment, because of high cost to the customers. Masataka Ohta
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Current thread:
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?, (continued)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 04)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 04)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 04)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 04)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jean-Francois Mezei (Feb 04)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 05)
- RE: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Eric Wieling (Feb 05)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 05)
- RE: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Eric Wieling (Feb 05)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 05)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jean-Francois Mezei (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jean-Francois Mezei (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jean-Francois Mezei (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Alain Hebert (Feb 08)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 06)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 06)