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Re: Europe-to-US congestion and packet loss on he.net network, and their NOC@ won't even respond


From: Rob Seastrom <rs () seastrom com>
Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 07:27:42 -0500


Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> writes:

Using a 1/10th of a second interval is rather anti-social.
I know we rate-limit ICMP traffic down, and such a
short interval would be detected as attack traffic,
and treated as such.

This should be obvious to everyone here but just in case, there's also
a huge difference between hammering the control plane of every router
along the path due to TTL expiration (mtr) and trying to smoke out
intermittent performance problems between end points with a few
hundred packets/second of various sizes of icmp or udp *between those
end points*.  Folks should expect the former to be rate limited - a
reasonable control plane policing policy is not optional these days.

-r



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