Re: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?

[Eduardo Schoedler <listas () esds com br>]

PPPoE Server is single thread too.


2013/12/27 Nick Olsen <nick () flhsi com>

> Exactly what Faisal Said. The BGP process appears to be single threaded at
> the moment. So taking on full BGP tables can be a bit slow compared to a
> decent X86 box. But in terms of raw forwarding power they are pretty
> monstrous.
>
> We replaced a few Maxxwave 6 port Atom's with the CCR. ~400Mb/s and ~40K
> pps aggregate across all ports. CPU load went from ~25% to ~0-2%. These are
> in a configuration where they have little or no firewall/nat/queue rules.
> And in most cases are running MPLS.
>
> We've not had any issues with stability so far either (Knock on wood).
>
> Nick Olsen
>  Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net>
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 10:33 AM
> To: "Geraint Jones" <geraint () koding com>
> Cc: nanog () nanog org, "Martin Hotze" <m.hotze () hotze com>
> Subject: Re: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?
>
> FYI... Mikrotik Cloud Core routers are nice, however one has to keep
> something in mind when deploying them...
>
> Only One Core (of the CPU) is dedicated to each port / process.
> So this is good so as  to contain what happens on a single port from taxing
> the whole CPU..
> But not so good when you need more cpu power than a single core for that
> port.
>
> Also, BGP process will only use one core.
>
> While these units make for great 'customer facing' edge routers, with
> plenty of power and the ability to keep issues contained... The X-86 based
> (Core2Duo/i5/i7) Mikrotik are more suitable (Processing power wise) for
> running multiple full BGP tables peering.
>
> Regards & Good Luck.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Geraint Jones" <geraint () koding com>
> > To: "Martin Hotze" <m.hotze () hotze com>
> > Cc: nanog () nanog org
> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 4:02:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: Mikrotik Cloud Core Router and BGP real life experiences?
> >
> > I am going to be deploying 4 as edge routers in the next few weeks, each
> will
> > have 1 or 2 full tables plus partial IX tables. So I should have some
> > empirical info soon.
> >
> > They will be doing eBGP to upstreams and iBGP/OSPF internally. I went
> with
> > the 16gb RAM models.
> >
> > However these boxes are basically Linux running on top of tilera CPUs,
> in
> > terms of throughput as long as everything stays on the fastpath they have
> no
> > issues doing wire speed on all ports, however the moment you add a
> firewall
> > rule or the like they drop to 1.5gbps.
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 27/12/2013, at 9:47 pm, Martin Hotze <m.hotze () hotze com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > looking at the specs of Mikrotik Cloud Core Routers it seems to be to
> good
> > > to be true [1] having so much bang for the bucks. So virtually all
> smaller
> > > ISPs would drop their CISCO gear for Mikrotik Routerboards.
> > >
> > > We are using a handful of Mikrotik boxes, but on a much lower network
> level
> > > (splitting networks; low end router behind ADSL modem, ...). We're
> happy
> > > with them.
> > >
> > > So I am asking for real life experience and not lab values with
> Mikrotik
> > > Cloud Core Routers and BGP. How good can they handle full tables and a
> > > bunch of peering sessions? How good does the box react when adding
> filters
> > > (during attacks)? Reloading the table? etc. etc.
> > >
> > > I am looking for _real_ _life_ values compared to a CISCO NPE-G2.
> Please
> > > tell me/us from your first hand experience.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > greetings, Martin
> > >
> > > [1] If something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.


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Eduardo Schoedler