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Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:08:15 -0500
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ammar Salih <ammar.salih () auis edu iq> wrote:
2- Layer 7 will not be detected by layer 3 devices (routers) .. so location-based service on layer-3 will not be possible.
Geographic-based layer 3 routing has been thoroughly discussed on the IRTF RRG and just as thoroughly rejected. It's wholly inadequate as an approximation for topographic locality within the network graph. Uses of geolocation information at layer 3 are similar to uses of the "evil bit." On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:
On 11/24/12, John Adams <jna () retina net> wrote:Don't conflate layer 5-7 needs with basic communication requirements. IP is not the place for this sort of header.IP is the logical place for this kind of header, as this information is node dependent, not application dependent.
As is the user's legal name and social security number. If it isn't processed by the layer 3 protocols, if they don't use it for next hop selection, then it doesn't belong at layer 3.
For example, in the case of an anycasted service, the source IP address does not uniquely identify where the source came from.
Given appropriate construction of the layer 4 protocol, nothing stops an anycasted service from responding with a unicast IP address and using the unicast address during subsequent communication. An anycast service has far better mechanisms available to identify the responding server than stuffing a GPS header in the layer 3 packet. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header, (continued)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header John Adams (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Daniel Ankers (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Carsten Bormann (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Jimmy Hess (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Tammy A. Wisdom (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Michael Butler (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Nick Hilliard (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Kenneth McRae (Nov 24)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Dave Edelman (Nov 25)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Ammar Salih (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header William Herrin (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Jimmy Hess (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header John Adams (Nov 25)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Network IPdog (Nov 25)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Randy (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header William Herrin (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Alex (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Jimmy Hess (Nov 26)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Mohacsi Janos (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Carlos M. Martinez (Nov 26)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header John Adams (Nov 24)