nanog mailing list archives
Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header
From: Daniel Ankers <md1clv () md1clv com>
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 21:46:48 +0000
It seems to me that there's a big problem with using this for rights enforcement. If the header is added by the user's device, then on certain operating systems it will be trivial for the user to set this to whatever they want it to be - which would defeat the purpose. If the header is added by devices out of the user's control so that the user cannot spoof their location (e.g. ISP routers) then for one thing they do not know the user's exact location, and for another there needs to be an additional mechanism for the user to switch the option off. The suggestion of using this to automatically get web pages in the right language also does not seem practical. My devices know that my preferred language is English. If I take one of those devices to China, I still want to see web pages in English. Additionally there is already an HTTP header to express your preferred language. Regards, Dan On 24 November 2012 21:18, John Adams <jna () retina net> wrote:
Don't conflate layer 5-7 needs with basic communication requirements. IP is not the place for this sort of header. This is not data that should be sent on every packet. It becomes redundant. Not to mention the serious privacy concerns such a header brings up in the protocol. You barely address this in your RFC. You write it away with a wishy-washy "Oh err um, users will have the option to turn it off". That's worked so well for opt-out advertising -- I'm sure it will work here. If there's a place where I can go and vote this down / debate it away, tell me where that is. -j On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Ammar Salih <ammar.salih () auis edu iqwrote:Dears, I've proposed a new IPv6 "extension header", it's now posted onIETFwebsite, your ideas and comments are most welcome!http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-add-location-to-ipv6-header/?include_text=1 Thanks! Ammar Salih
Current thread:
- Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Ammar Salih (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header John Adams (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Daniel Ankers (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Carsten Bormann (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Jimmy Hess (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Tammy A. Wisdom (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Michael Butler (Nov 24)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Nick Hilliard (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Kenneth McRae (Nov 24)
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Dave Edelman (Nov 25)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Ammar Salih (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header William Herrin (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header Eugen Leitl (Nov 25)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header William Herrin (Nov 25)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header John Adams (Nov 24)