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Re: Google/Youtube problems
From: Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:05:47 +0200
On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote:
Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube?
My advice is, host the content locally. Certain Finnish domestic SPs had issues with youtube during peak hours for years, when content came via Stockholm, if content came from mainland europe or locally you were set. Perhaps Google was (maybe still is) regularly congested in Stockholm, and there might not be much incentive for google to add capacity everywhere sufficiently, as they can just pressure to people to host them for free. I'm bit curious about market position youtube has. GOOG claims youtube is making profit, but I think this is because network is considered other BUs cost and youtube rides on it for free (remember pre-youtube, how GOOG micro-optimized google front-page to save on network cost, post-youtube they rightly stopped caring and added predictive input etc.) I can't see how anyone could compete against youtube, I don't believe the service is anywhere near profitable (it's maybe 10% of Internet, and I can't see revenue being 10% of Internet), if it would have to pay for the network itself. Consequently you probably can't compete with them, as you need to cover the costs from the profits. It is just so ubiquitous service, that if it does not work your eyeballs will switch to network where it does, so you will give google free capacity, which you wouldn't probably do for others web streaming shops. -- ++ytti
Current thread:
- Google/Youtube problems Daniel Suchy (Nov 18)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Saku Ytti (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Patrick W . Gilmore (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Saku Ytti (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Leo Bicknell (Nov 19)
- RE: Google/Youtube problems Adam Vitkovsky (Nov 19)
- RE: Google/Youtube problems Adam Vitkovsky (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Saku Ytti (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Michael Loftis (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems joel jaeggli (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Joly MacFie (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Patrick W . Gilmore (Nov 19)
- Re: Google/Youtube problems Saku Ytti (Nov 19)
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- Re: Google/Youtube problems Nick Olsen (Nov 19)