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Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al)
From: Joseph Snyder <joseph.snyder () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 09:34:07 -0400
For those who didn't Google it. http://www.ftthcouncil.org/en/knowledge-center/case-studies/amsterdam-city-fiber-project-analysis -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Joseph Snyder <joseph.snyder () gmail com> wrote: Lol too early in the morning, that much for so few, but if you are going to govt fund copper replacement, it's probably the way to go. Not sure how costly that would be in the US since even in the cities there are a lot of duplexes. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Joseph Snyder <joseph.snyder () gmail com> wrote: Any details on how much this cost, maybe I just missed it in the article. 40k. It sounds interesting but in the US this would only make sense in cities and most people don't live in MDUs. Where I live a lot of peoples driveways are a mile or two long. Marcel Plug <marcelplug () gmail com> wrote: This article from arstechnica is right on topic. Its about how the city of Amsterdam built an open-access fibre network. It seems to me this is the right way to do it, or at least very close to the right way.. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars -Marcel On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 14:18:26 -1000, Michael Painter said:"The indication of above average or below average is based on a comparison of the actual test result to the current NTIA definition of broadband which is 768 kbps download and 200 kbps upload. Any test result above the NTIA definition is considered above average, and any result below is considered below average."That's the national definition of "broadband" that we're stuck with. To show how totally cooked the books are, consider that when they compute "percent of people with access to residential broadband", they do it on a per-county basis - and if even *one* subscriber in one corner of the county has broadband, the entire county counts.
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- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al), (continued)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Michael Painter (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Matthew Palmer (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc Paul Graydon (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc Owen DeLong (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc Michael Painter (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Marcel Plug (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 23)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Joseph Snyder (Mar 24)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Joseph Snyder (Mar 24)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Joseph Snyder (Mar 24)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Joseph Snyder (Mar 24)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Michael Painter (Mar 25)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Keegan Holley (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Jared Mauch (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Keegan Holley (Mar 22)
- RE: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Eric Wieling (Mar 22)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Luke S. Crawford (Mar 22)
- RE: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) Frank Bulk (Mar 24)
- Re: last mile, regulatory incentives, etc (was: att fiber, et al) 'Luke S. Crawford' (Mar 24)