Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)

[joe mcguckin <joe () via net>]

My understanding was that fiber loops were originally included in UNE products available to clecs but several years ago 
the FCC modified the regulations to remove them.

So, if a service can be provisioned over a copper loop, a clec can offer it, but the ilec doesn't have to share fiber 
loops or services provisioned over fiber loops. I guess that explains 
the frenzy of fiber-to-the-curb buildout we saw with Pac Bell in the early 2000's. I don't think ATT/PacBell has been 
ripping out copper, but much of it in the SF Bay area is a rotting 
mess and ATT hasn't been spending much money to maintain it.

Now that the DSL clecs are all but extinct, the pace of fiber buildout to the end-user has slowed down considerably.


Joe McGuckin
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On Mar 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Wieling" <EWieling () nyigc com>
>
> > Verizon, the copper wireline company, is removing service from
> > locations EVERY TIME VZ fiber is installed in a building. This
> > prevents other companies from providing service by leasing Verizon's
> > copper infrastructure. If there was copper at a location then VZ would
> > be required to resell it and nobody would be locked out.
>
> TTBOMK, whether Verizon has copper to a building has *no bearing at all*
> on whether a CLEC can place an order for wholesale service to that location;
> VZN is *required* to provide that wholesale service, at the regulated NRC
> and MRC rates, whether they currently happen to have the physical facilities
> in place or not -- are you alleging either that I've misunderstood that,
> or that VZN is refusing such orders *simply* because they've removed
> facilities to an address where FiOS has done an install?
>
> Cause either of those ought to violate the rules.
>
> > We often get customers in buildings lit by Verizon fiber service who
> > want to change carriers. Too bad they can't anymore. Technically they
> > can switch providers. Verizon will remove the fiber, re-install
> > copper, and have the customer down for a week or so.
>
> See above.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> -- 
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