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Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:03:02 -0400

On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:52:54 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:

Get real. Even EAPS takes 0.05 seconds to recover from an unexpected
link failure

If you keep two or more links, keep them alive, and let them
know their IP addresses each other, which can be coordinated
by mobile hosts as the ends, links can cooperate to avoid
broken links for a lot faster recovery than 0.05s.

May work for detecting a dead access point in a wireless mesh, but
it doesn't scale to WAN sized connections.

Standard systems control theory tells us that you can't control a
system in less than 2*RTT across the network.  There's *plenty* of
network paths where endpoint-homebase-endpoint will be over 50ms.
Consider the case where one endpoint is in Austria, the other is in Boston,
and the node handling the mobility is in Japan.  Now a router fails in
Seattle.  How long will it take for the endpoints to notice?

(Alternatively, explain how you locate a suitable home base node
closer than Japan.  Remember in your explanation to consider that
you may not have a business relationship with the carrier that
would be an optimum location)

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