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Re: Questions about anycasting setup
From: Anurag Bhatia <me () anuragbhatia com>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:46:25 +0530
Thanks for guidance everyone! Appreciate it. And yes, I can see another thread running on discussion about /48 - I am listening silently about it. Multiple AS doing anycasting was little concern for me, but now seems good since I can see everyone's suggestion to use single own ASN for anycasting. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pete Carah <pete () altadena net> wrote:
On 03/09/2012 01:34 AM, Elmar K. Bins wrote:Re Bill, woody () pch net (Bill Woodcock) wrote:Well, let's say, using Quagga/BIRD might not really be best practiceforeverybody... (e.g., *we* are using Cisco equipment for this)How does your Cisco know whether an adjacent nameserver is heavilyloaded, and adjust its BGP announcements accordingly?It doesn't have to. I don't know how you guys do it, but we take great care to keep min. 70% overhead capacity during standard operation.My point had to do with resilience in the face of hardware/OS/software failures in the box providing the service. Bill's has more to do with resilience in the face of other network events (e.g. the upstream for one of the boxes has a DDOS; you cannot reasonably provide enough excess capacity to handle that...) Neither of these is addressed by using a separate router to announce the server's anycast route. (unless somehow the Cisco is providing the anycasted service, which would address my concern but still not Bill's.) Also, Bill is probably talking root (or bigger public) servers whose load comes from "off-site"; the average load characteristics for those are well known but there can be extremes that would be hard to plan for (hint - operating at 30% isn't really good enough, probably not 10% either. Bill (and the other Bill) have pretty good stats for this that I've only glanced at...) And it is easy to see where one of the extremes might hit only one or two of the anycast instances. He implies having the instances talking to each other in background to adjust bgp announcements to maybe help level things. Fortunately at least for the root servers, the redundancy is at two levels and anycast is only one of them. -- Pete
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Current thread:
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup, (continued)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Mehmet Akcin (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Pete Carah (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Elmar K. Bins (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Steve Gibbard (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Phil Regnauld (Mar 10)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Elmar K. Bins (Mar 12)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Bill Woodcock (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Elmar K. Bins (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Bill Woodcock (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Pete Carah (Mar 09)
- Re: Questions about anycasting setup Anurag Bhatia (Mar 09)