nanog mailing list archives
Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?)
From: Dave Hart <davehart () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:27:53 +0000
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Karl Auer <kauer () biplane com au> wrote:
On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 21:07 +0000, Dave Hart wrote:Bzzt. With ARP, every IPv4 node on the link indicates each ARP packet to the OS. With ND, only those nodes sharing the same last 24 bits of the IPv6 address indicate the packet up the stack. The rest of the IPv6 nodes filter the multicast in the NIC.Still not quite correct :-) The "filtering" is done by a MLD-aware switch, which will send multicast packets only to nodes that are listening to the appropriate multicast group. The filtering you describe is pretty much what ARP does - ALL nodes receive the packet, all but one ignore it. It depends on the platform whether the CPU that does the ignoring is just in the NIC or is in the node itself.
Karl, you seem to fail to understand how ethernet NICs are implemented in the real world. Ignoring the optional (but common) promiscuous mode support and various offloading, IPv4 ARP is sent as ethernet broadcast and the NIC hardware and driver is in no position to filter -- it must be done by the IP stack. In contrast, ND is sent as ethernet multicast which are filtered by receivers in hardware. Whether or not the switches are smart enough to filter is an implementation decision that has no bearing on the requirement to filter in the NIC hardware. Cheers, Dave Hart
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?), (continued)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Ricky Beam (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Owen DeLong (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Alexandru Petrescu (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Alexandru Petrescu (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Owen DeLong (Jun 19)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 06)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Ricky Beam (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Dave Hart (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Dave Hart (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Mark Andrews (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Dave Hart (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 07)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Jean-Francois . TremblayING (Jun 08)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Karl Auer (Jun 12)
- Re: IPv6 /64 links (was Re: ipv6 book recommendations?) Masataka Ohta (Jun 12)