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Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:28:18 -0700
On Jul 16, 2012, at 7:35 PM, Karl Auer wrote:
On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 22:04 -0400, Lee wrote:Each site gets a /48. Even the ones with less than 200 people. [...] Which is *boring*. Nothing novel, no breaking out of "IPv4 think" aside from massively wasting address space.It's only a waste if you get nothing for it. By using /64 everywhere you get a more homogeneous network, easier to administer, manage, document, maintain... There are similar advantages, writ larger, to using /48 for every site.
It's also a waste if you don't ever use the address and the protocol gets deprecated before a significant percentage of the addresses are allocated. Earlier in this thread, I did the math showing how it will likely, even with very liberal allocation policies, be 100 years or more before we allocate 1/40th of the total IPv6 space to RIRs.
Whether you have 2, 20, 200, 2000 or 20,000 hosts in a /64 subnet, you have still only used 0% of it, to a dozen or more decimal places. IPv4-think says that's a waste. IPv6-think says "great - all my subnets are large enough". Resizing IPv4 subnets is common; resizing IPv6 subnets will be rare. IPv4-think is conserving addresses. IPv6-think is conserving subnets. We don't buy dining chairs based on the number of atoms in them - we buy enough to seat the people who need seating.
Exactly. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space, (continued)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space joseph . snyder (Jul 14)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 14)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 14)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 14)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Robert E. Seastrom (Jul 14)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Brett Frankenberger (Jul 15)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Lee (Jul 15)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space John Levine (Jul 15)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Lee (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Karl Auer (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space valdis . kletnieks (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Ray Soucy (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Seth Mos (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Seth Mos (Jul 17)