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Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space
From: -Hammer- <bhmccie () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 12:10:56 -0500
I agree. Most are naive. Not all. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 7/16/2012 11:34 AM, valdis.kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:09:28 -0500, -Hammer- said:-------That is clearly a matter of opinion. NAT64 and NAT66 wouldn't be there if there weren't enough customers asking for it. Are all the customers naive? I doubt it. They have their reasons. I agree with your "purist" definition and did not say I was using it. My point is that vendors are still rolling out base line features even today.Sorry to tell you this, but the customers *are* naive and asking for stupid stuff. They think they need NAT under IPv6 because they suffered with it in IPv4 due to addressing issues or a (totally percieved) security benefit (said benefit being *entirely* based on the fact that once you get NAT working, you can build a stateful firewall for essentially free). The address crunch is gone, and stateful firewalls exist, so there's no *real* reason to keep pounding your head against the wall other than "we've been doing it for 15 years".
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- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space, (continued)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Lee (Jul 15)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space John Levine (Jul 15)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Lee (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Karl Auer (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space valdis . kletnieks (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space -Hammer- (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Ray Soucy (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Seth Mos (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Seth Mos (Jul 17)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Rajendra Chayapathi (rchayapa) (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Oliver (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Rajendra Chayapathi (rchayapa) (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Matt Addison (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Karl Auer (Jul 16)
- Re: using "reserved" IPv6 space Jimmy Hess (Jul 16)