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Re: Dear RIPE: Please don't encourage phishing


From: Joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:57:36 -0800

On 2/11/12 19:34 , Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
yes, domain names that cannot be typed in with any keyboard/charset on
any computer out there, excellent idea, devide and conquerer, i wonder
who came up with that idiotic plan again, probably the ITU or one of
their infiltrants in icann.

If it's worth shoveling blame indiscriminately it's worth informing
yourself a little about the timeline and the actors involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalized_domain_name

how about, we simply don't code any software or adjust any platforms to
support it, if nobody uses it, no problem :P

(or just deliberately break it as its nothing more than a "devide and
conquerer" attempt of the UN anyway ;)

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Neil Harris wrote:

On 12/02/12 00:09, Masataka Ohta wrote:
Neil Harris wrote:

Techniques to deal with this sort of spoofing already exist: see

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/tld-idn-policy-list.html
It does not make sense that .COM allows Cyrillic characters:

http://www.iana.org/domains/idn-tables/tables/com_cyrl_1.0.html

i script of a domain name is Cyrillic.

Domain names do not have such property as script.

Is the following domain name:

    CCC.COM

Latin or Cyrillic?

for one quite effective approach.
The only reasonable thing to do is to disable so called
IDN.

                    Masataka Ohta

PS

Isn't it obvious from the page you referred that IDN is
not internationalization but an uncoordinated
collection of poor localizations?


I'm not a flag-waver for IDN, so much as a proponent of ways to make IDN
safer, given that it already exists.

Lots of people have thought about this quite carefully. See RFC 4290 for
a technical discussion of the thinking behind this policy, and RFC 5992
for a policy mechanism designed to resolve the problem you raised in
your example above.

You will notice that the .com domain does not appear on the Mozilla IDN
whitelist.

-- N.








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