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Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?


From: Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d () alter3d ca>
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:50:21 -0400

My point is more along the line of if you're depending on a service which provides only best-effort on uptime (as Bill 
Herrin mentioned, some providers can barely manage 2 nines of 911 uptime) and to which you're connected by a single, 
fault-prone connection, and which provides no guarantee of service even if you CAN contact them,  calling it "critical" 
is kind of a joke, and you'd probably get laughed at by a risk analyst.  If you're serious about protecting health and 
home, you'd  better have some other plan in place that doesn't have a ridiculous number of single points of failure.

Pete


Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:

I've never met a dog properly trained in ACLS and I'm pretty sure that a gun isn't even useful for BLS.

Owen

On Aug 4, 2012, at 7:53 PM, Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d () alter3d ca> wrote:

Considering that none of the services that can be dispatched by 911 are legally required to help you  in most North 
American jurisdictions (i.e. if you call 911 and the police don't respond until they finish eating their box of 
donuts, they're not criminally or civilly liable), having working 911 services really doesn't guarantee you 
anything. Most security monitoring companies have contracts that are completely worthless and guarantee nothing as 
well.  

If you're depending on 911 for life safety and property protection, I'd recommend revising that plan to include a 
dog and/or gun.  :-)  

- Pete



Nathan Eisenberg <nathan () atlasnetworks us> wrote:

Residences aren't critical infrastructure, no matter how angry the owners get.

911 access isn't a critical service?  Fire and security panels aren't critical services?

If basic life safety and property protection aren't critical services, I'm not sure what is.  These are peoples' 
lives and families and homes.  There is nothing - repeat, nothing - more important than that.  It is absolutely a 
critical service.

Nathan Eisenberg




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