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Re: Do Not Complicate Routing Security with Voodoo Economics


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:09:32 -0700


3. I think the discussion on the list so far misses what I see as the central question about the economic 
assumptions in that paper.  The paper assumes that all destinations are equally valuable, which we know is not the 
case.  This implicitly (and perhaps mistakenly?) shifts the balance of power to tier-1 ISPs, whereas in practice, it 
may be with other ASes (e.g., Google).  In practice, ISPs may be willing to spend significant amounts of money to 
reach certain destinations or content (some destinations are more valuable than others... e.g., Google).  If the 
most "valuable" destinations deployed S-BGP and made everyone who wanted to connect to them deploy it, that would be 
more likely to succeed than the approach taken in the paper, I think.

Our paper does not assume all destinations are equally valuable.

1) As mentioned in our response to Randy, we weight content
providers more heavily  (see Section 6.8.1; we ran experiments where
the content providers collectively source 10%, 20%, 33% or 50% of
Internet traffic).


The point here, however, is that the value is subjective. Not all content providers
are equally valuable. An access provider will get many complaints from users
if they are unable to reach some content providers (e.g. google) while they will
get relatively few complaints if they are unable to access others
(e.g. hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com).

Owen




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