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Re: IPv6 prefixes longer then /64: are they possible in DOCSIS networks?


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:43:04 -0500

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:15:02 EST, Jeff Wheeler said:

Owen and I have discussed this in great detail off-list.  Nearly every
time this topic comes up, he posts in public that neighbor table
exhaustion is a non-issue.  I thought I'd mention that his plan for
handling neighbor table attacks against his networks is whack-a-mole.
That's right, wait for customer services to break, then have NOC guys
attempt to clear tables, filter traffic, or disable services; and
repeat that if the attacker is determined or going after his network
rather than one of his downstream customers.

It's worked for us since 1997.  We've had bigger problems with IPv4 worms that
decided to probe in multicast address space for their next target, causing CPU
exhaustion on routers as they try to set up zillions of multicast groups.

Sure, it's a consideration.  But how many sites are *actually* getting hit
with this, compared to all the *other* DDOS stuff that's going on?  I'm willing
to bet a large pizza with everything but anchovies that out in the *real*
world, 50-75 times as many (if not more) sites are getting hit with IPv4
DDoS attacks that they weren't prepared for than are seeing this one
particular neighbor table exhaustion attack.

Any of the guys with actual DDoS numbers want to weigh in?

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