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Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?
From: Jeff Young <young () jsyoung net>
Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 17:49:16 +1000
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 03/05/2011, at 1:33 PM, George Bonser wrote:
f there are 10,000 Comcast subscribers watching exactly the same live event on the net, sending 10,000 streams of exactly the same data is dumb and it doesn't have to be that way.
IMHO, It's pretty likely that those 10,000 streams will originate in as few as 5 but as many as 40 or so individual CDN-type devices imbedded deep in Comcast local networks. Therefore, the consumption of bandwidth that seems wasteful is limited and in proportion to the distance between the viewers and these devices. The same devices can be used to originate long-tail (not often watched) content, Video on Demand content, time- shifted content and so forth. Multicast is an elegant solution to a dwindling problem set. Patrick rightly points out that enabling multicast to the end user may just not be worth the operational cost. Multicast as a tool the provider uses on the other hand is well worth the expense. You might use it to broadcast content to your CDN-like devices or keep your trading desks up to date with the latest ticker feeds. AT&T uses multicast to push video channels (the IP equivalent of broadcast TV) down to and through DSLAMs for UVerse. But viewing habits dictate technology used. For instance, AT&T might use multicast to 'broadcast' television channels but for an "instant channel change" feature hoards of unicast servers stand ready to feed UVerse users who haven't figured out how to use a program guide to navigate their sets and can't bear the latency of a S,G join. :-) jy -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) iF4EAREIAAYFAk2/s4AACgkQxvthcni5E2/naQD+PHifzWPC2mhknrzhIIjqstT+ HoBJ2/Lk4ZpktX+00osA/0OEDL5SQHeg++c9wo40hJuxMRn66ViPOXNq8T7ckWdZ =yeYh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? David Sparro (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Robert Bonomi (May 02)
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- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Patrick W. Gilmore (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Leo Bicknell (May 02)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? George Bonser (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jay Ashworth (May 02)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeff Young (May 03)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? George Bonser (May 03)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeffrey S. Young (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jay Ashworth (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Tim Franklin (May 04)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Leigh Porter (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeff Wheeler (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Scott Helms (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jeff Wheeler (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Steven Bellovin (May 04)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? Jay Ashworth (May 04)