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Re: 23,000 IP addresses
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme () americafree tv>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 11:19:06 -0400
On May 10, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Mark Radabaugh <mark () amplex net> wrote:On 5/10/11 9:07 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: A good reason why every ISP should have a published civil subpoena compliance fee. 23,000 * $150 each should only cost them $3.45M to get the information. Seems like that would take the profit out pretty quickly.+1. But don't the fees actually have to be reasonable?
If you say your fee is $150 per IP address, I think they might bring it to the judge and claim the ISP is attempting to avoid subpoena compliance by charging an unreasonable fee. They can point to all the competitors charging $40 per IP.
I am not a lawyer, and you would be a fool to use NANOG for legal advice, but if I were to charge something for this, I would want to be able to justify the charge in front of a judge, regardless of what anyone else charges. In other words, something like "we find it typically takes $ 100 to get the backups out of storage, 15 minutes @ $X per minute for a tech to find the right backup disk and 10 minutes at $Y per minute for a network engineer to review the dump." Regards Marshall
This would be very interesting with IPv6 though, and customers assigned /56s. "You want all the records for every IP in this /56, really?" -- -JH
Current thread:
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses, (continued)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses David Conrad (May 12)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Julien Gormotte (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Dale Carstensen (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Mark Radabaugh (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Jimmy Hess (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Mark Radabaugh (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses William Allen Simpson (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Christopher Morrow (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Joel Jaeggli (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Christopher Morrow (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Jimmy Hess (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Marshall Eubanks (May 11)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Mark Radabaugh (May 11)
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- Fwd: 23,000 IP addresses Luis Marta (May 10)
- Re: Fwd: 23,000 IP addresses Michael Holstein (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Owen DeLong (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Steven Bellovin (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Kevin Oberman (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Justin M. Streiner (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Michael Holstein (May 10)
- Re: 23,000 IP addresses Kevin Oberman (May 10)