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Re: 23,000 IP addresses


From: Marshall Eubanks <tme () americafree tv>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:01:54 -0400


On May 10, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Roland Perry wrote:

In article <BANLkTimA-ZpM3bKXoDtxMgXySJ_FKYS+0w () mail gmail com>, chip <chip.gwyn () gmail com> writes

Interesting, especially after this:

http://torrentfreak.com/ip-address-not-a-person-bittorrent-case-judge-says-110503/

It depends whether you are suing the subscriber or the downloader (maybe both can be liable in some cases). Also 
whether the subscriber was running an open Wifi (normally not recommended), which is a matter of evidential fact to 
be explored in each particular case.


And, perhaps most critically, which judge you come before. (It will take a while, and maybe a visit to the Supreme 
Court, before you can
expect legal consistency here.) 

Note also that these generally do not go to trial.

Regards
Marshall 


On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Marshall Eubanks <tme () multicasttech com> wrote:
A Federal Judge has decided to let the "U.S. Copyright Group" subpoena ISPs over 23,000 alleged downloads of some
Sylvester Stallone movie I have never heard of; subpoenas are expected to go out this week.

I thought that there might be some interest in the list of these addresses :

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/05/expendibleipaddresses.pdf

If you have IP addresses on this list, expect to receive papers shortly.

Here is more of the backstory :

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/biggest-bittorrent-case/

This is turning into quite a legal racket (get order $ 3000 for sending a threatening letter); I expect to see a lot
more of this until some sense returns to the legal system.

Attempts a bit like this have come unstuck in the UK. Search for "Davenport Lyons" and "ACS Law"
-- 
Roland Perry





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