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Re: [pfSense Support] Strange TCP connection behavior 2.0 RC2 (+3)


From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:16:13 -0700

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Leigh Porter
<leigh.porter () ukbroadband com> wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.list6 () gmail com]
Sent: 28 June 2011 16:53
To: Leigh Porter
Cc: Andreas Ott; Eugen Leitl; williamejsalt () googlemail com; NANOG list
Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Strange TCP connection behavior 2.0 RC2
(+3)
In the 3G world, i have had good results overcoming longish RTT by
using the Hybla TCP algorithm  http://hybla.deis.unibo.it/

I am hoping it gets more default traction, especially in wireless
where the radio link is a pretty big latency source

Cameron

How do you implement this for lots of clients and servers that have out of the box implementations? The FastSoft box 
is a TCP man-in-the-middle box that essentially implements the FAST TCP algorithm without either end having to worry 
about it.


You don't, the full benefits only come with a Linux kernel patch.  The
good news is that it only has to be implemented on the client end.

I have also used home-fudged TCP proxies with some success.

Some 3G/wireless/VSAT vendors implement their own TCP modification stacks but they usually only fiddle with window 
sizes and such.


That's why i said i hope it catches on as default :)  If Android
implemented Hybla, i think it would be a great improvement for user
experience.  Nobody likes the middleboxes that proxy TCP.... they cost
money, don't scale well, and are generally fragile.  Hybla is not a
solution for the OPs issue, just a solution for high RTT links where
the client can do Hybla.  It an evolutionary step that i think would
make a great fit in smartphones like Android.

Cameron
--
Leigh


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