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Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 01:24:37 -0700


On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:39 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>

MacDonald's would likely get title to .macdonalds under the new rules,
right?

Well... Which MacDonald's?

1. The fast food chain
2. O.C. MacDonald's Plumbing Supply
3. MacDonald and Sons Paving Systems
4. MacDonald and Madison Supply Company
5. etc.

All of them have legitimate non-conflicting trademarks on the name MacDonald's
(or at least could, I admit I made some of them up). I said when this mess
first started that mapping trademarks to DNS would only lead to dysfunction.
It did. Now the dysfunction is becoming all-encompassing. It will be 
interesting to watch the worlds IP lawyers (IP as in Intellectual Property,
not Internet Protocol)
eat their young over these issues for the next several decades.

Indeed.

It's actually "McDonalds", of course, and the US trademark law system has
a provision for "famous" marks.  I don't recall what the rules are, but 
once they've decide your mark is "famous", then it no longer competes only
in its own line-of-business category; *no one* can register a new mark in 
any category using your word.


While that is true, there are several McDonalds registered in various spaces
that actually predate even the existance of Mr. Crok's famous burger joints.

Coca-Cola, Sony, and I think Kodak, are the canonical examples of a
famous mark.


Let us not also forget the over-extension of that situation, as applied to Jell-O
where there are now very bizarre rules about who can and can't refer to just
any gelatine dessert as Jell-O.

Owen



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