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Re: NIST IPv6 document


From: Lamar Owen <lowen () pari edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 14:52:56 -0500

On Friday, January 07, 2011 09:25:59 am David Sparro wrote:
I find that the security "Layers" advocates tend not to look at the 
differing value of each of those layers.

Different layers very much have different values, and, yes, this is often glossed over.

Going back to the physical door analogy, it's like saying that a bank 
vault protected by a bank vault door is less secure than a vault with 
the bank vault door AND a screen door.

More analogous would be the safe with glass relockers and a vial of tear gas behind the ideal drill point.  Yes, those 
do exist, and, should you want to see a photo of such a vial, I can either provide one (have to take the photo with the 
safe door open next time I'm on that site, which may be a while with all this snow and ice on the ground) or you can 
find pics through google.

Even physical locks have layered security principles.  Think Medeco locks with chisel-pointed pins and the associated 
sidebar in the center, or ASSA's Twin double-stack pin technology, or the use of spool pins in locks, or Schlage's 
Primus system (also sidebar driven) or anti-drill armor in front of the pin stack (to prevent drilling the shear line), 
etc.  The use of layers in the physical security realm is a proven concept, and the synergy of the layers has been 
shown effective over time.  Not totally secure, of course, but as the number of layers increases the security becomes 
better and better.


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