Re: quietly....

[bmanning () vacation karoshi com]

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 04:49:57PM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> On 2/13/11 10:31 AM, David Conrad wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > > > Of course, one might ask why those well known anycast addresses
> > > > are "owned" by 12 different organizations instead of being
> > > > "golden" addresses specified in an RFC or somesuch, but that gets
> > > > into root server operator politics...
> > >
> > > there are perfectly valid reasons why you might want to renumber
> > > one,
> >
> > Ignoring historical mistakes, what would they be?
>
> gosh, I can't imagine why anyone would want to renumber of out
>
> 198.32.64.0/24...

        or 198.32.65.0/24
        or 10.0.0.0/8
        or 128.0.0.0/16

(speaking of the other blocks I've had the fortune to have to renumber out of)

> making them immutable pretty much insures that you'll then find a reason
> to do so.
>
> > > the current institutional heterogeneity has pretty good prospects
> > > for survivability.
> >
> > "Golden" addresses dedicated to root service (as opposed to 'owned'
> > by the root serving organization) means nothing regarding who is
> > operating servers behind those addresses.  It does make it easier to
> > change who performs root service operation (hence the politics).
>
> There are plenty of cautionary tales to be told about well-known
> addresses. assuming that for the sake of the present that we forsake
> future flexibility then sure golden addresses are great.
>
> > Regards, -drc

        well - there is an interesting take on hosting root 
        name service on 127.0.0.1  and ::1

        then you have to do other tricks, like multicast and
        new op-codes and rip out the link-local restrictions
        that Apple's multicastDNS or the ilnp proposals do...
        
        end of the day, you end up with a -much- more robust DNS
        w/o the whole P2P/DNS (chord) like framework.

but ... this thread has migrated far from its origins... and the mutations are
less than operational.


YMMV of course.

--bill