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RE: Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays


From: Bhoomi Jain <bhoomij () india com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:33:26 +0200 (CEST)

Mr. Delong,

I am simply trying to explain that running a 6to4 on your network is a good idea, however advertising the anycast 
prefix to other networks has some risk, especially if you're experiencing problems with your Internet peerings.  
Hopefully Comcast will upgrade its capacity soon.  I appreciate Mr. John's continued leadership and contribution to the 
IPv6.

Sincerely,
Bhoomi Jain

At 20 Apr 2011 14:51:48 +0200 (CEST) from Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>:


The better solution to that problem is to get additional 6to4 relays deployed closer to India. Perhaps encouraging 
Tata to take some leadership in that area, for example.
I do not believe that the opening of the Comcast relays will harm BGP best path selection for the 6to4 prefix except 
in rather broken and/or pathological cases of BGP best path selection. Those cases should be relatively easy to 
identify and correct locally without preventing Comcast from significantly improving the 6to4 situation for the areas 
they serve by opening their relays.
I applaud John for his leadership in this area and I think the IPv6 work being done by Comcast sets a good example for 
the community. As a Comcast customer, praising Comcast does not come easy to me, but, in this area, they are doing 
excellent things and should be commended.
Owen

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On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Bhoomi Jain <bhoomij () india com> wrote:
Mr. John,

I thank you for asking the advice of the community.

As our colleagues suggest, having 6to4 relays inside the network helps to reduce the latency.  Opening up your 
generous services to a larger Internet community by advertising the 192.88.99.0/24 BGP prefix outside the network 
could have extreme and unintended consequences.

To give you an idea, a lot of the Internet in India depends on the service of the Tata companies, with international 
routing coming from Tata Communications AS 6453.  Announcing 192.88.99.0/24 to 6453 as a customer, I would worry 
about its treatment as BGP best-path, in place of closer 6to4 relays.  As you understand, these circuits are very 
far away, and also very full.  This is not something I would recommend.

Sincerely,
Bhoomi Jain

At 19 Apr 2011 22:51:24 +0200 (CEST) from "Brzozowski, John" <John_Brzozowski@[Cable.Comcast.com]>:


Folks,
Since deploying our 6to4 relays, Comcast has observed a substantial
reduction in the latency associated with the use of 6to4. As such we are
contemplating further opening our relays for use by others. The
availability of our 6to4 relays should improve the experience of others
using 6to4 as a means to access content and services over IPv6.
We have been open about our IPv6 activities and wanted to follow suit by
reaching out to the community and soliciting feedback before moving
forward. As always we wish to continue to advocate and support the
universal deployment of IPv6.
Please send any comments or questions to the list or if you wish to me
directly.
John
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