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Re: Routers in Data Centers


From: Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:17:14 -0700

On 9/26/10 11:09 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:


Joel's widget number 2

On Sep 26, 2010, at 10:47, Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net> wrote:

Once upon a time, Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> said:
On Sep 26, 2010, at 8:26, Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net> wrote:
There are servers and storage arrays that have a front that is nothing
but hot-swap hard drive bays (plugged into backplanes), and they've been
doing front-to-back cooling since day one.  Maybe the router vendors
need to buy a Dell, open the case, and take a look.

The backplane for a sata disk array is 8 wires per drive plus a common power bus.

Server vendors managed cooling just fine for years with 80 pin SCA
connectors.  Hard drives are also harder to cool, as they are a solid
block, filling the space, unlike a card of chips.

It's the same 80 wires on every single drive in the string.

There are fewer conductors embedded in 12 drive sca backplane as there are in a 12 drive sata backplane, in both 
cases they are generally two layer pcbs. Compared to what 10+ layer pcbs that are a approaching 1/4" thick on the 
router. 

Aw come on, that's no reason you can't just drill it full of holes. I
mean, it is 2010. It should be wireless by now.

~Seth


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