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Re: Routers in Data Centers


From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:17:07 -0700



On Sep 26, 2010, at 8:26, Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net> wrote:
Once upon a time, Joel Jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> said:
On Sep 25, 2010, at 9:05, Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us> wrote:
From the datacenter operator prospective, it would be nice if some of these vendors would acknowledge the need 
for front-to-back cooling. I mean, it is 2010.

Bakplanes make direct front to back cooling hard. non-modular platforms can do it just fine however.

There are servers and storage arrays that have a front that is nothing
but hot-swap hard drive bays (plugged into backplanes), and they've been
doing front-to-back cooling since day one.  Maybe the router vendors
need to buy a Dell, open the case, and take a look.

The backplane for a sata disk array is 8 wires per drive plus a common power bus.
  

The server vendors also somehow manage to make an empty case that costs
less than $10,000 (they'll even fill it up with useful stuff for less
than that).

Unit volume is little higher, and the margins kind of suck. There's a reason why hp would rather sell you a blade 
server chassis than 16 1us.

Equating servers and routers is like equating bouncy castle prices with renting an oil platform.

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



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