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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic?


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:12:30 -0700


On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Chris Woodfield wrote:

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:57 07AM, George Bonser wrote:


Hi Chris,

Since prioritization would work ONLY when the link us saturated
(congested), without it, nothing is going to work well, not your
torrents, not your email, not your browsing.  By prioritizing the
traffic, the torrents might back off but they would still continue to
flow, they wouldn't be completely blocked, they would just slow down.
QoS can be a good thing for allowing your VIOP to work while someone
else in the home is watching a streaming movie or something.  Without
it, everything breaks once the circuit is congested.



Your statement misses the point, which is, *who* gets to decide what traffic is prioritized? And will that 
prioritization be determined by who is paying my carrier for that prioritization, potentially against my own 
preferences? For some damn reason, I might *prefer* that my torrent traffic get prioritized over, say, email. Or, I 
might not appreciate the eventuality that a stream I'm watching on hulu.com stutters because my neighbor's watching a 
movie on Netflix and it just happens that Netflix has paid my carrier for prioritized traffic.

The other point, as mentioned previously, is that paid prioritization doesn't mean a thing unless there's congestion 
to be managed. It's not a far stretch to see exec-level types seeing the potential financial benefits to, well, 
ensuring that such congestion does show up in their network in order to create the practical incentives for paid 
prioritization.

-C
Yep... If you don't believe that will happen, I refer you to Enron vs. California ISO and the
lovely changes to the electricity market in California around that time.

Owen



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