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RE: IPv4 squatters on the move again?


From: Tero Toikkanen <Tero.Toikkanen () nebula fi>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:34:46 +0000

Yeah, it's pretty obvious from the start. I'd like to see the VoIP-system with those requirements...

I just think these cases should be made public to at least slow these guys down, just in case someone else is less 
cluefull :) If these really happen all the time in the big world, this list may not be the right place, but just 
something Google can find. This is not first case we have come across requests like this, but still not so common in 
the Finnish hosting scene.

With Kind Regards,
--
Tero Toikkanen
Nebula Oy Internet Services

Kind of funny how they intend to do enough 'WholesaleVoIP" on a 10Mbps
connection/1GB RAM  for a /20 :)

That is a giveaway in itself.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tero Toikkanen <Tero.Toikkanen () nebula fi>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 08:24:05
To: NANOG list<nanog () nanog org>
Subject: IPv4 squatters on the move again?

Anyone hear of the SundownGroup?

On Thursday we received an interesting RFQ from them and suspect their
intentions for requesting an IP assignment isn't exactly what they state. We
have already turned them down, but thought others might be interested in
their activities as well. RIPE NCC has also been notified of this.

In brief they wanted to buy colo form us: "P4 single core @ 2 Ghz, 1 GB RAM,
60 GB HD, Linux CentOS 5x.x, 10 Mbps bandwidth. A single /21 or /20 net block
of IP Adresses"

Their reason for requesting such a large address block was "As we are
currently launching our WholesaleVOIP operation we are in desperate need of
this IP space as part of our ARIN process we will need these ranges SWIPd to
us and we will in turn renumber with ARIN and return the netblocks to you as
soon as ours are allocated and routed."

Interesting tidbits about the company we and the networking community have
already found out:

Compare http://sundowngroup.com/ and http://www.edgecast.com/ (Edgecast has
been notified).

The contact address is the same as National University Nevada (nu.edu):

Sundown Capital Management LLC
2850 Horizon Ridge Parkway
Henderson, Nevada 89052
United States of America

They also have virtually no Internet presence
(http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Sundown+Capital+Management%22)
The first result shows them as a franchicing company with contact address in
California: http://www.scribd.com/doc/14385124/QFA-Unit-Final-PDF-File-of-
32709-FDD-With-Exhibits

I'd say this case is pretty obvious...

With Kind Regards,
--
Tero Toikkanen
Nebula Oy Internet Services



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