Re: Network Operators Unite Against SORBS

["Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>]

On Oct 12, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Scott Howard wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 5:35 AM, iHate SORBS <ihatesorbs () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > I am calling on all Network Operators to stand up and stop routing
> > dnsbl.sorbs.net until that time they can commit to making real changes.
>
> What sort of changes are you suggesting?  Suggesting a block unless they
> make undisclosed changes is simply asinine.
>
> I'm no fan of SORBS, but at the end of the day (ignoring the issues like
> they had last week) they do what they say they do.
>
> The problem with SORBS is not SORBS itself, but the mail admins that are
> stupid enough to use it - or at least stupid enough to use it as a straight
> blacklist (as opposed to a scoring blacklist).  Start up a campaign against
> those if you like - perhaps an RBL of people who are using the SORBS RBL -
> but asking people to stop "routing" a DNS domain just because you don't like
> their clearly stated listing criteria simply isn't going to fly.

I kinda-sortta feel like many others who have posted here.  This is a mail thing, not netops.  Grow a pair and post 
under your own name.  Is it even on-topic for NANOG?  Etc.

I even started typing a message to the effect of: "even though I don't like SORBS, they should be allowed to publish a 
list and let others do as they please".  But then I realized, that is all this anonymous person is asking.  Or at least 
it could be.

If "iHate SORBS" wants to create a (another?) list of prefixes which should not be routed, and put SORBS on it, he 
(she?) should be allowed, just as SORBS should be allowed to have a list of mail servers SORBS doesn't like.  Then each 
operator can decide whether to implement a block based on the list or not.  Your network, your decision.

Of course, I fully expect no one to implement the block.  But that is no reason to deny the ability to create the list.

Now, I feel like quoting Pastor Niemöller so we can end this thread. :)

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TTFN,
patrick