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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:51:12 -0500
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:36:49 +0100, Mans Nilsson said:
Given this empirical data, clearly pointing to the fact that It Does Not Matter, I think we can stop this nonsense now.
That's right up there with the sites that blackhole their abuse@ address, and then claim they never actually see any complaints. Or forcing NAT at the edge, and saying "The fact we get no complaints means It Does Not Matter", ignoring SCTP and similar use cases where it *does* matter. If in fact It Does Not Matter, why did the Internet2 folks make any effort to support 9000 end-to-end? http://proj.sunet.se/LSR2/index.html says they used an MTU of 4470.. and then add "and we used only about half the MTU size (which generates heavier CPU-load on the end-hosts)", which pretty much implies the previous record was at 9000 or so. So there's empirical data that It Does Indeed Matter (at least to some people).
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- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nick Hilliard (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Chris Adams (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Niels Bakker (Nov 09)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nathan Eisenberg (Nov 09)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Matthew Petach (Nov 06)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 06)