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Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)
From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:14:01 +1030
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 01:07:17 -0700 "George Bonser" <gbonser () seven com> wrote:
Yes, I really don't understand that either. You would think thattheinvestment in developing and deploying all that SONET infrastructure has been paid back by now and they can lower the pricesdramatically.One would think the vendors would be practically giving it away, particularly if people understood the potential improvement in performance, though the difference between 1500 and 4000 is probably not all that much except on long distance ( >2000km ) paths.Careful, you're rapidly working your way up to nanog kook status with these absurd claims based on no logic whatsoever.My aploligies. It just seemed to me that the investment in SONET, particularly the lower data rates, should be pretty much paid back by now. How long has OC-12 been around? I can understand a certain amount of premium for something that doesn't sell as much but the difference in prices can be quite amazing in some markets. Some differential might be justified but why so much? An OC-12 SFP optic costs nearly $3,000 from one vendor, list. Their list price for a GigE SFP optical module is about 30% of that. What is it about the optic module that would cause it to be 3 times as expensive for an interface with half the bandwidth? A 4-port OC-12 module is 37,500 list. A 4-port 10G module is $10,000 less for 10x the bandwidth. In other words, what is the differential in the manufacturing costs of those? I don't believe it is as much as the differential in the selling price.
Once the base manufacturing cost is covered, supply and demand dictate the price a.k.a. "you charge what the market will bear." While at least one person/organisation continues to pay sonet/sdh pricing, that's what will be charged.
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- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-), (continued)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Will Hargrave (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jeff Kell (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Richard A Steenbergen (Nov 07)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 07)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mark Smith (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- RE: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) George Bonser (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Nick Hilliard (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Jack Bates (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Mans Nilsson (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Chris Adams (Nov 08)
- Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-) Niels Bakker (Nov 09)