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Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:52:34 +0100 (CET)
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010, Joly MacFie wrote:
Afterwards, I asked her about the effect of competition. She remarked that, according to her research, countries with competition, such as the Euro unbundling regimes like the UK, actually had a much higher likelihood of such network management practices that the duopolist USA as the providers were under greater pressure to optimize the economic value of every bit put through.
I am not expert on the UK market, but I'd say the UK is a bad example of infrastructure unbundling.
For unbundling to be successful, there needs to be the possibility of having rented (decent price) L1 connectivity to the COs as well as L1 to the customers. Without all of this in place, true competition can't happen.
One needs to look at the whole supply chain so that there is L1 all the way, as soon as someone puts L2 or higher equipment in the way and there is only 1-2 suppliers of this "service", it doesn't matter if you have a bazillion ISPs, the market still won't work.
Recipe for success is to have a neutral entity whose business idea is to rent out fiber to anyone who wants to rent it, and who goes all the way to residential customers. Aggregate at nodes with several thousand households and let ISPs colocate at these nodes to reach end users.
Think COs but instead of copper, use fiber, and the entitity who owns this doesn't do anything but L1.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
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- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions, (continued)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Ben Butler (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Christopher Morrow (Nov 29)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Ben Butler (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions David Reader (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Michael Painter (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions William Herrin (Nov 29)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Ben Butler (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Michael Painter (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Joly MacFie (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Joly MacFie (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Jared Mauch (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Andrew Koch (Nov 29)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions George Bonser (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Christopher Morrow (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Jeffrey Lyon (Nov 29)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions George Bonser (Nov 29)