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Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping
From: Mark Smith <nanog () 85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc nosense org>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 06:57:00 +0930
On Tue, 4 May 2010 16:44:06 +0200 (CEST) Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2010, Chris Boyd wrote:Most of the ADSL installations I've seen in SBC 13 state area had interleaving turned on, which significantly increases latency. I suspect that's why many cable MSOs in the same territory have "cable is better for gaming" marketing campaigns running all the time. So the latency you see on an ADSL line is dependent on how the carrier set up the DSLAM.Interleaving is good because it reduces bit error rate on the line. Would be good though if the carrier let the customer change the properties of the line to optimize for different things, high snr target/no interleaving for low bw/low BER/low latency applications, low snr target/interleaving for file transfers.
It's common for ISPs in Australia who own their own DSLAMs to do this via 'line profiles'. I'm on the most aggressive one, and have line latency of around 9.5 to 10ms. Also what is interesting is that ADSL firmware in the modem can contribute significantly. I used to need to be on ADSL1 with interleaving to get any sort of reliable line sync. After a modem firmware upgrade, which I knew also involved an ADSL chipset firmware upgrade, I didn't get any more bandwidth, but was able to get stability (i.e. no loss of sync for weeks on end) without interleaving. Regards, Mark.
Current thread:
- Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Srikanth Sundaresan (May 03)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Patrick Giagnocavo (May 03)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Aria Stewart (May 03)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Raymond Dijkxhoorn (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Dave Hart (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Raymond Dijkxhoorn (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Marshall Eubanks (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Chris Boyd (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping isabel dias (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Mikael Abrahamsson (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Mark Smith (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Patrick Giagnocavo (May 03)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping isabel dias (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Valdis . Kletnieks (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Chris Boyd (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Scott Weeks (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Mikael Abrahamsson (May 04)
- Re: Emulating ADSL bandwidth shaping Scott Weeks (May 04)