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Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ?
From: jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:14:28 -0300
I'm a real life user, I know the difference and I could careless about v6. most anything I want I is on v4 and will still be there long after ( when ever it is) we run out of v4 addresses. If I'm on a content provider and I'm putting something new online I want everyone to see, they will find away for all of us with v4 and credit cards to see it, and not be so worried about developing countries or the sub 5% of people in developed countries for now. I'm sure @ some point v6 will see the business need, but while I'm expect to have to deploy it for marketing reasons, I hope its someone else's problem but its a must have for real business. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Ricky Beam <jfbeam () gmail com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Michael Dillon <wavetossed () googlemail com> wrote:I did not fat finger anything. In the real world, nearly 100% of consumers demand IPv6 from their ISP. ...Hah. No. No they don't. They want, as you point out, "access to the internet", which they are currently getting JUST FINE. And this will continue to be the case for a LONG TIME.ISPs who don't have IPv6 will soon be unable to provide access to all Internet sites, as content providers begin to bring IPv6 sites onstream.I've been hearing this BS for over a decade, and yet I've not heard a single complaint or run into a single site I could not access for lack of IPv6. Yes, there are IPv6 only sites, but I don't use them, nor do any of the people I know. What little IPv6 I have used I have had to go out of my way to *intentionally* use IPv6 over v4. Until there are common sites that are only accessible via IPv6 -- thus unavailable to "unevolved" ISP customers, ISP won't be investing anything in IPv6 deployment. That's not to say ISPs aren't experimenting with it -- some are, simply that they are not putting any heavy engineering resources behind it.The approaching time...Right now, that snail is on the other side of the world -- almost literally. Unless someone glues a rocket to it's shell, it won't even be on the horizon for years. If it were up to me, you, or the rest of the list, we'd rather simply get the mess over and switch everything tomorrow. *heh* But that ain't gonna happen. (I still have gear in use that only does IPX. thankfully, I've escaped Appletalk, but IPX is still clinging to life.) --Ricky
Current thread:
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ?, (continued)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Joel Jaeggli (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Nick Hilliard (Mar 31)
- RE: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Frank Bulk - iName.com (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Michael Holstein (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Ricky Beam (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Michael Thomas (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Michael Dillon (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Nick Hilliard (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Michael Dillon (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Ricky Beam (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? jim deleskie (Mar 31)
- 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Dan White (Mar 31)
- Re: 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Patrick Giagnocavo (Mar 31)
- Re: 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Dan White (Mar 31)
- Re: 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Patrick Giagnocavo (Mar 31)
- Re: 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Dan White (Mar 31)
- Re: 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Joel Jaeggli (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Nick Hilliard (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Joel Jaeggli (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Patrick Giagnocavo (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Larry Sheldon (Mar 31)
- Re: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Joel Jaeggli (Mar 31)
- RE: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ? Frank Bulk - iName.com (Mar 31)